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	<title>Comments on: For transport data, OpenGov actions can speak louder than words</title>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2009/10/for-transport-data-opengov-actions-can-speak-louder-than-words/#comment-1916</link>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi ed

be careful for what you wish for as there&#039;s a bit of double-speak in your post--google have had access to a great deal of transport data that other parties have continually been denied access to, requiring protracted discussions and even litigation (which, as you can surmise, would obviously be successful). it&#039;s clear google has tremendous visibility within public organizations and if used for good, it is a great way to liberate data of all stripes. but recognize your number one priority is to make such data available for use within google products and services. a *very* distant second mandate is to make such data available to the general public. examples in the US, UK and other areas abound--why should my company have to take legal action against a transit authority to simply be on the same playing field as google?

there&#039;s a substantial difference between claiming openness and supporting it in a material way. this is easily evidenced by seeing how many agencies make their raw (or GTFS) data freely available v. those who make it available only via google transit--if nothing else, this should give you pause before making such aspirational claims, many of which you are in a position to affect.

regards
ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi ed</p>
<p>be careful for what you wish for as there&#8217;s a bit of double-speak in your post&#8211;google have had access to a great deal of transport data that other parties have continually been denied access to, requiring protracted discussions and even litigation (which, as you can surmise, would obviously be successful). it&#8217;s clear google has tremendous visibility within public organizations and if used for good, it is a great way to liberate data of all stripes. but recognize your number one priority is to make such data available for use within google products and services. a *very* distant second mandate is to make such data available to the general public. examples in the US, UK and other areas abound&#8211;why should my company have to take legal action against a transit authority to simply be on the same playing field as google?</p>
<p>there&#8217;s a substantial difference between claiming openness and supporting it in a material way. this is easily evidenced by seeing how many agencies make their raw (or GTFS) data freely available v. those who make it available only via google transit&#8211;if nothing else, this should give you pause before making such aspirational claims, many of which you are in a position to affect.</p>
<p>regards<br />
ian</p>
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		<title>By: Peter D Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter D Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It simple beggars belief that an MP should have to even raise the issue. Most transport services in the UK receive public subsidy in one way or another. It should be a basic requirement: if you get public money at all, then all relevant data falls in the public domain. No ifs, buts, exclusions. Simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It simple beggars belief that an MP should have to even raise the issue. Most transport services in the UK receive public subsidy in one way or another. It should be a basic requirement: if you get public money at all, then all relevant data falls in the public domain. No ifs, buts, exclusions. Simple.</p>
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