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		<title>By: Every Silver Lining has a Cloud&#8230; &#171; PBBI Stratus</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2008/09/the-paleotards-have-spoken/#comment-1510</link>
		<dc:creator>Every Silver Lining has a Cloud&#8230; &#171; PBBI Stratus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is already a major trend in other IT areas. Perhaps we&#8217;re too busy squabbling around neo and paleo - two terms I particularly despise. But while there are a few people out there flying the flag of [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is already a major trend in other IT areas. Perhaps we&#8217;re too busy squabbling around neo and paleo &#8211; two terms I particularly despise. But while there are a few people out there flying the flag of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: #geomob at the AGI &#124; edparsons.com</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2008/09/the-paleotards-have-spoken/#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator>#geomob at the AGI &#124; edparsons.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 19:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reason I&#8217;m going along to the AGI this year, as you may remember I was disappointed with the introspection and backwards thinking demonstrated at last years conference and had all but given up attending. However the injection of [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reason I&#8217;m going along to the AGI this year, as you may remember I was disappointed with the introspection and backwards thinking demonstrated at last years conference and had all but given up attending. However the injection of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nov 4, 2008: Geospatial Applications In Government at BCS</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2008/09/the-paleotards-have-spoken/#comment-1508</link>
		<dc:creator>Nov 4, 2008: Geospatial Applications In Government at BCS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mark won the best paper award by popular vote at the recent AGI conference for his controversial paper &#8220;The Hype of Web 2.0&#8243; - for some discussion see Ed Parson&#8217;s blog The Paleotards Have Spoken [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Mark won the best paper award by popular vote at the recent AGI conference for his controversial paper &#8220;The Hype of Web 2.0&#8243; &#8211; for some discussion see Ed Parson&#8217;s blog The Paleotards Have Spoken [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Spatializer</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2008/09/the-paleotards-have-spoken/#comment-1507</link>
		<dc:creator>The Spatializer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just reflects the issue of change again. GI is changing...as it does...as does all technology. People seldom tend to, as a whole, change at the same pace of technology and methodology. Some will. Some will not.
Some cannot. The GI industry is made up of a range of people who in many cases have transposed from other legacy or associated geo walks of life. I hear alot of frustrated cahtter now from GI people in the same way that I have heard frustrated chatter from Surveyors throughtout my working life. Boring and self-affected moaning about nothing more than losing control and losing grip. This is why we ended up with the rapidly fabricated term of Geomatics. Created to regain the grip on someting by surveyors; aimed at bundling anything &quot;geo&quot; into one bag which could be managed by &quot;professional surveyors&quot;. Please let us not fall into our own Paleo soup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just reflects the issue of change again. GI is changing&#8230;as it does&#8230;as does all technology. People seldom tend to, as a whole, change at the same pace of technology and methodology. Some will. Some will not.<br />
Some cannot. The GI industry is made up of a range of people who in many cases have transposed from other legacy or associated geo walks of life. I hear alot of frustrated cahtter now from GI people in the same way that I have heard frustrated chatter from Surveyors throughtout my working life. Boring and self-affected moaning about nothing more than losing control and losing grip. This is why we ended up with the rapidly fabricated term of Geomatics. Created to regain the grip on someting by surveyors; aimed at bundling anything &#8220;geo&#8221; into one bag which could be managed by &#8220;professional surveyors&#8221;. Please let us not fall into our own Paleo soup.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Dudman</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2008/09/the-paleotards-have-spoken/#comment-1506</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Dudman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ed,
 
I sat a few seats along from you at the AGI â??08 &quot;Big Debate&quot; and I agree with your thoughts about the benefits and challenges that web mapping technologies bring to the GIS industry.  As a software developer and GI professional I don&#039;t see any cause for concern.  The contributions from Google and Microsoft open up GI and GIS capabilities to the masses, which can only be a benefit to the industry.  At the same time, despite claims to the opposite by some speakers at the conference, GI professionals have not been replaced by these technologies.  Integrating GI science with enhanced visualisation capabilities and familiar UI experiences will allow us to produce the most powerful and useful applications ever.  This is an exciting opportunity to bring benefits of geography to everyone&#039;s lives, and will open up new commercial opportunities for those in the industry who embrace the technology.
 
Tim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed,</p>
<p>I sat a few seats along from you at the AGI â??08 &#8220;Big Debate&#8221; and I agree with your thoughts about the benefits and challenges that web mapping technologies bring to the GIS industry.  As a software developer and GI professional I don&#8217;t see any cause for concern.  The contributions from Google and Microsoft open up GI and GIS capabilities to the masses, which can only be a benefit to the industry.  At the same time, despite claims to the opposite by some speakers at the conference, GI professionals have not been replaced by these technologies.  Integrating GI science with enhanced visualisation capabilities and familiar UI experiences will allow us to produce the most powerful and useful applications ever.  This is an exciting opportunity to bring benefits of geography to everyone&#8217;s lives, and will open up new commercial opportunities for those in the industry who embrace the technology.</p>
<p>Tim.</p>
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		<title>By: AGI GeoCommunity &#8216;08 - some reflections &#171; Po Ve Sham - Muki Haklay&#8217;s personal blog</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2008/09/the-paleotards-have-spoken/#comment-1505</link>
		<dc:creator>AGI GeoCommunity &#8216;08 - some reflections &#171; Po Ve Sham - Muki Haklay&#8217;s personal blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] having the forum for the debate is what makes this conference so valuable Just look at the blogs of Ed, Adena, Joanna, Andy and Steven for such a debate to see that there are issues that people will [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] having the forum for the debate is what makes this conference so valuable Just look at the blogs of Ed, Adena, Joanna, Andy and Steven for such a debate to see that there are issues that people will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Feldman</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2008/09/the-paleotards-have-spoken/#comment-1504</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Feldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed one more from me. Did you go to Mark&#039;s presentation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed one more from me. Did you go to Mark&#8217;s presentation?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Thurston</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2008/09/the-paleotards-have-spoken/#comment-1503</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed,

You missed a word - &#039;what is the ROLE of a GI professional?&#039;.

This is why I attempted to move the discussion toward everyone being a &#039;professional&#039; with the idea being - now what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed,</p>
<p>You missed a word &#8211; &#8216;what is the ROLE of a GI professional?&#8217;.</p>
<p>This is why I attempted to move the discussion toward everyone being a &#8216;professional&#8217; with the idea being &#8211; now what?</p>
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