Comments on: GSDI 10 – Despite best intentions, slow progress but a new outlook ? http://www.edparsons.com/2008/03/gsdi-10-despite-best-intentions-slow-progress-but-new-a-new-outlook/ The blog of Ed Parsons, Geographer. Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:11:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Adam Sliwinski http://www.edparsons.com/2008/03/gsdi-10-despite-best-intentions-slow-progress-but-new-a-new-outlook/#comment-1326 Adam Sliwinski Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:23:22 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=639#comment-1326 Technology changes. What news! ;-) But the past and current pace of change seems to fuel a never ending process inside many SDI projects. Instead of adapting a growing set of evolutionarily developed SDI components to be in line with stable technological inventions, it seems to me that the Grand Designeurs decided to take a one huge step by specifying everything in all possible detail before implementation and deployment can start. Some tiny prototypes here and there are of course possible and desirable. But I fear that they will do so as long as there is a risk that the produced documents may eventually become obsolete because of innovation. If this is true, than one is sure as hell: An operational SDI will start to emerge when technology stops to change. Dont know when this will happen... Maybe the expected recession will give the technology industry a chance to stop changing? ;-) Technology changes. What news! ;-) But the past and current pace of change seems to fuel a never ending process inside many SDI projects. Instead of adapting a growing set of evolutionarily developed SDI components to be in line with stable technological inventions, it seems to me that the Grand Designeurs decided to take a one huge step by specifying everything in all possible detail before implementation and deployment can start. Some tiny prototypes here and there are of course possible and desirable. But I fear that they will do so as long as there is a risk that the produced documents may eventually become obsolete because of innovation. If this is true, than one is sure as hell: An operational SDI will start to emerge when technology stops to change. Dont know when this will happen… Maybe the expected recession will give the technology industry a chance to stop changing? ;-)

]]> By: Ed http://www.edparsons.com/2008/03/gsdi-10-despite-best-intentions-slow-progress-but-new-a-new-outlook/#comment-1327 Ed Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:20:45 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=639#comment-1327 Hi Sean, "an almost impossible design choice" is any technology that will be implemented in 10 years time... As to REST vs SOAP, I think I agree with you in seeing the benefits of REST, however the mainstream GI is still focused on the "new" technology of SOAP based web services, and are mostly unfamiliar with REST.. still this will hopefully change with the next release of ArcGIS.. Hi Sean,

“an almost impossible design choice” is any technology that will be implemented in 10 years time…

As to REST vs SOAP, I think I agree with you in seeing the benefits of REST, however the mainstream GI is still focused on the “new” technology of SOAP based web services, and are mostly unfamiliar with REST.. still this will hopefully change with the next release of ArcGIS..

]]> By: Sean Gillies http://www.edparsons.com/2008/03/gsdi-10-despite-best-intentions-slow-progress-but-new-a-new-outlook/#comment-1325 Sean Gillies Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:31:05 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=639#comment-1325 Re: "For technical architects this is an almost impossible design choice." Ed, do you mean the choice between REST and SOAP? That's pretty clear since the strengths and weaknesses of each are well known and there's at least one exemplar of a RESTful architecture: the Web. Or are you writing there about a different choice? Also, I have a little footnote to this post at http://zcologia.com/news/699/rethinking-gsdi-architecture/. Re: “For technical architects this is an almost impossible design choice.”

Ed, do you mean the choice between REST and SOAP? That’s pretty clear since the strengths and weaknesses of each are well known and there’s at least one exemplar of a RESTful architecture: the Web. Or are you writing there about a different choice?

Also, I have a little footnote to this post at http://zcologia.com/news/699/rethinking-gsdi-architecture/.

]]> By: Andrew Fleming http://www.edparsons.com/2008/03/gsdi-10-despite-best-intentions-slow-progress-but-new-a-new-outlook/#comment-1324 Andrew Fleming Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:56:23 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=639#comment-1324 As we are finding so clearly, bottom-up gets further than top-down. As we are finding so clearly, bottom-up gets further than top-down.

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