Comments on: OpenStreetMap and the Rabbit Phone problem.. http://www.edparsons.com/2008/01/openstreetmap-and-the-rabbit-phone-problem/ The blog of Ed Parsons, Geographer. Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:11:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: vgps http://www.edparsons.com/2008/01/openstreetmap-and-the-rabbit-phone-problem/#comment-1245 vgps Wed, 23 Apr 2008 09:22:53 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=609#comment-1245 joesonic Said: >> Totally agree with joesonic. Data quality is a very serious problem in OSM data, especially for doing routing with OSM data. We are very serious concern about data quality in OSM data and build a page to discuss about doing routing with OSM data here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Routing_with_osm_data joesonic Said:
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Totally agree with joesonic. Data quality is a very serious problem in OSM data, especially for doing routing with OSM data.

We are very serious concern about data quality in OSM data and build a page to discuss about doing routing with OSM data here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Routing_with_osm_data

]]> By: edparsons.com » Blog Archive » Links for 17 April 2008 http://www.edparsons.com/2008/01/openstreetmap-and-the-rabbit-phone-problem/#comment-1250 edparsons.com » Blog Archive » Links for 17 April 2008 Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:43:04 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=609#comment-1250 [...] thoughtful post by Mikel on the problem of Geographic Naming on Internet Maps, as for Cyprus, like Wokingham in OSM, we still need to do [...] [...] thoughtful post by Mikel on the problem of Geographic Naming on Internet Maps, as for Cyprus, like Wokingham in OSM, we still need to do [...]

]]> By: Dutch http://www.edparsons.com/2008/01/openstreetmap-and-the-rabbit-phone-problem/#comment-1249 Dutch Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:44:13 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=609#comment-1249 *cough* Isle of Man *cough* So Ed, pray tell when will Google maps have equal or better coverage than OSM of that particular bit of the Commonwealth ? Before or after OSM has equal or better coverage than Google maps has of Wokingham ? ;) *cough* Isle of Man *cough*
So Ed, pray tell when will Google maps have equal or better coverage than OSM of that particular bit of the Commonwealth ? Before or after OSM has equal or better coverage than Google maps has of Wokingham ? ;)

]]> By: joesonic http://www.edparsons.com/2008/01/openstreetmap-and-the-rabbit-phone-problem/#comment-1246 joesonic Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:50:21 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=609#comment-1246 I think the coverage of the OSM Project is not the main problem. I agree with some comments posted earlier, focusing on the factor time. In my opinion dataquality is also a serious problem. I'm not familiar with all details of the project, but there should be mechanisms to ensure the dataquality and correctness of data. Metadata could help to make the data more useful and transparent to the users. By the way some metadata for Google Maps (and GE) would also be great. But of course these initiatives are really great for the GIS sector. I think the coverage of the OSM Project is not the main problem. I agree with some comments posted earlier, focusing on the factor time.
In my opinion dataquality is also a serious problem. I’m not familiar with all details of the project, but there should be mechanisms to ensure the dataquality and correctness of data. Metadata could help to make the data more useful and transparent to the users. By the way some metadata for Google Maps (and GE) would also be great.

But of course these initiatives are really great for the GIS sector.

]]> By: Paul http://www.edparsons.com/2008/01/openstreetmap-and-the-rabbit-phone-problem/#comment-1240 Paul Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:17:00 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=609#comment-1240 I seem to remember that it wasn't that long ago that Google Maps had North America and the UK floating in an unusually large, world-covering ocean. OSM may well still be at that stage of having patchy coverage, but it's catching up *fast*... I seem to remember that it wasn’t that long ago that Google Maps had North America and the UK floating in an unusually large, world-covering ocean. OSM may well still be at that stage of having patchy coverage, but it’s catching up *fast*…

]]> By: John Handelaar http://www.edparsons.com/2008/01/openstreetmap-and-the-rabbit-phone-problem/#comment-1243 John Handelaar Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:14:38 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=609#comment-1243 Rabbit wasn't in competition with cell phones. It was in competition with payphones. It failed because it couldn't receive calls at all, ever, no matter how near an access point you were. It was, in short, a very stupid product. Rabbit wasn’t in competition with cell phones. It was in competition with payphones.

It failed because it couldn’t receive calls at all, ever, no matter how near an access point you were. It was, in short, a very stupid product.

]]> By: Blog What I Made » Ed Parsons gets heavy, Fake SteveC gets heavier http://www.edparsons.com/2008/01/openstreetmap-and-the-rabbit-phone-problem/#comment-1242 Blog What I Made » Ed Parsons gets heavy, Fake SteveC gets heavier Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:23:36 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=609#comment-1242 [...] and amusing posts have shown up over the weekend that I just couldn’t go without mentioning. Ed Parsons posted an article about Nestoria’s new property site based around OSM maps. In this article Ed brings up the [...] [...] and amusing posts have shown up over the weekend that I just couldn’t go without mentioning. Ed Parsons posted an article about Nestoria’s new property site based around OSM maps. In this article Ed brings up the [...]

]]> By: Peter Miller http://www.edparsons.com/2008/01/openstreetmap-and-the-rabbit-phone-problem/#comment-1248 Peter Miller Mon, 14 Jan 2008 00:33:07 +0000 http://www.edparsons.com/?p=609#comment-1248 I do agree that using the crowd to correct and improve data would be attractive especially for a company with user based of Google. Btw, I did do a survey of OSM users about whether they would contribute data to commercial providers and I think it is fair to say the answer was 'no'! The value of this survey may however be limited unless it can be proved that the respondents were a typically cross section of society. A serious question about the take up of commercial contribution services though is who owns the data and how the contributions are used. We could well end up with all the mapping data owners and service providers thrusting update services on their users and then keeping the results to themselves (that's the old model anyway). I believe that TomTom didn't share its updates with TeleAtlas (who provided their data) who didn't share their changes with the OS, so it might be pretty unattractive to the community. If Google delivered the improved data back to their data provider in return for lower usage costs then that would be much more interesting for the community (but possibly not for G), but there's the bind. Oh yes, here are my survey questions and the responses (follow the links): http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2007-November/019702.html I do agree that using the crowd to correct and improve data would be attractive especially for a company with user based of Google. Btw, I did do a survey of OSM users about whether they would contribute data to commercial providers and I think it is fair to say the answer was ‘no’! The value of this survey may however be limited unless it can be proved that the respondents were a typically cross section of society. A serious question about the take up of commercial contribution services though is who owns the data and how the contributions are used. We could well end up with all the mapping data owners and service providers thrusting update services on their users and then keeping the results to themselves (that’s the old model anyway). I believe that TomTom didn’t share its updates with TeleAtlas (who provided their data) who didn’t share their changes with the OS, so it might be pretty unattractive to the community. If Google delivered the improved data back to their data provider in return for lower usage costs then that would be much more interesting for the community (but possibly not for G), but there’s the bind. Oh yes, here are my survey questions and the responses (follow the links): http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2007-November/019702.html

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