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	<title>Comments on: Mac iPlayer .. so the wait begins !</title>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2007/07/mac-iplayer-so-the-wait-begins/#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, having tried it - I would say that you&#039;re not missing much!  Besides the difficulty I had in downloading and installing the program, a few other issues I&#039;ve learned:

- if you have another Kontiki service installed like 4oD, it won&#039;t work, as they conflict with each other

- even worse, even when the program is completely closed, it continues to download/upload - slowing your internet and will cause you to go over your ISP&#039;s limits

It&#039;ll be coming off my machine pronto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, having tried it &#8211; I would say that you&#8217;re not missing much!  Besides the difficulty I had in downloading and installing the program, a few other issues I&#8217;ve learned:</p>
<p>- if you have another Kontiki service installed like 4oD, it won&#8217;t work, as they conflict with each other</p>
<p>- even worse, even when the program is completely closed, it continues to download/upload &#8211; slowing your internet and will cause you to go over your ISP&#8217;s limits</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be coming off my machine pronto.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Bartlett</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2007/07/mac-iplayer-so-the-wait-begins/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thought from my 12 yr old.  Don&#039;t worry about the iPlayer, it&#039;s all on U Tube anyway.

Out of the mouths of babes - or future customers as we like to call them.

PS.  I don&#039;t support a differential approach to development.  I am just realistic about the cost of these things.  It would be nice to deal with everyone - but to quote Jerry Maguire - &quot;show me the money&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thought from my 12 yr old.  Don&#8217;t worry about the iPlayer, it&#8217;s all on U Tube anyway.</p>
<p>Out of the mouths of babes &#8211; or future customers as we like to call them.</p>
<p>PS.  I don&#8217;t support a differential approach to development.  I am just realistic about the cost of these things.  It would be nice to deal with everyone &#8211; but to quote Jerry Maguire &#8211; &#8220;show me the money&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2007/07/mac-iplayer-so-the-wait-begins/#comment-917</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting it only got 300 signatures by 3rd July (perhaps nobody knew what it was about) but then it answers Julian&#039;s comment about it being a beta, if there&#039;s a deal then it&#039;s not going to be made available for other platforms in the future.

Simon&#039;s right about putting yourself in a minority community if you choose to be a mac user, but then why should that be the case? It&#039;s precisely these kind of deals that keep feeding the Microsoft machine, and putting Mac (and other) users further into the minority. Trouble is, the general public don&#039;t rebel against it by all going out and buying Macs instead, which only encourages the feeding. And the cycle continues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting it only got 300 signatures by 3rd July (perhaps nobody knew what it was about) but then it answers Julian&#8217;s comment about it being a beta, if there&#8217;s a deal then it&#8217;s not going to be made available for other platforms in the future.</p>
<p>Simon&#8217;s right about putting yourself in a minority community if you choose to be a mac user, but then why should that be the case? It&#8217;s precisely these kind of deals that keep feeding the Microsoft machine, and putting Mac (and other) users further into the minority. Trouble is, the general public don&#8217;t rebel against it by all going out and buying Macs instead, which only encourages the feeding. And the cycle continues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2007/07/mac-iplayer-so-the-wait-begins/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may also want to check out this:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/bbcmicrosoft/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may also want to check out this:<br />
<a href="http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/bbcmicrosoft/" rel="nofollow">http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/bbcmicrosoft/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Black</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2007/07/mac-iplayer-so-the-wait-begins/#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon says: &#039;you choose to put yourself into a minority user group, and accept the consequences. You don’t move next door to a church, and then complain about the bells, and you don’t buy a Mac and complain that you are a low priority in the development cycle&#039;

But why bother with DRM in the first place.  Honestly, when has DRM worked, where &#039;worked&#039; is defined as preventing the unauthorised redistribution of the media?

&#039;anyhow given the track record of almost all DRM’d content it should be available on the usual P2P networks this time next month&#039;

Priecisely, so why bother anyway?   Probably because by the time someone at the BBC who actually &#039;got it&#039; had drained the life spirit from their souls in an effort to convice an Executive somewhere that they could possibly release their programmes online they just didn&#039;t have the will left within them to convice them not to bother with DRM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon says: &#8216;you choose to put yourself into a minority user group, and accept the consequences. You don’t move next door to a church, and then complain about the bells, and you don’t buy a Mac and complain that you are a low priority in the development cycle&#8217;</p>
<p>But why bother with DRM in the first place.  Honestly, when has DRM worked, where &#8216;worked&#8217; is defined as preventing the unauthorised redistribution of the media?</p>
<p>&#8216;anyhow given the track record of almost all DRM’d content it should be available on the usual P2P networks this time next month&#8217;</p>
<p>Priecisely, so why bother anyway?   Probably because by the time someone at the BBC who actually &#8216;got it&#8217; had drained the life spirit from their souls in an effort to convice an Executive somewhere that they could possibly release their programmes online they just didn&#8217;t have the will left within them to convice them not to bother with DRM.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Larcombe</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2007/07/mac-iplayer-so-the-wait-begins/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Larcombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should hardly comes as a great surprise to anyone that this is (and, lets face it, will only ever be) available to Windows users. Not because of &#039;market&#039; share, but because the chap at the BBC responsible for iPlayer, Erik Huggers, was previously Senior Director of the Digital Media Division of errr Microsoft...

...anyhow given the track record of almost all DRM&#039;d content it should be available on the usual P2P networks this time next month. The next challenge will be to find something actually worth watching :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should hardly comes as a great surprise to anyone that this is (and, lets face it, will only ever be) available to Windows users. Not because of &#8216;market&#8217; share, but because the chap at the BBC responsible for iPlayer, Erik Huggers, was previously Senior Director of the Digital Media Division of errr Microsoft&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;anyhow given the track record of almost all DRM&#8217;d content it should be available on the usual P2P networks this time next month. The next challenge will be to find something actually worth watching <img src='http://blakeparsons.com/edparsons/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Simon Bartlett</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2007/07/mac-iplayer-so-the-wait-begins/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair comment Ed.  Only 14% of the Ed Blog community could use the Beta.  But doesn&#039;t that say more about the GI Blog community than it does about the BBC&#039;s move into streamed programing?  I&#039;m with Phil and Julian on this one, and lets face it, as a Mac user, you choose to put yourself into a minority user group, and accept the consequences.  You don&#039;t move next door to a church, and then complain about the bells, and you don&#039;t buy a Mac and complain that you are a low priority in the development cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair comment Ed.  Only 14% of the Ed Blog community could use the Beta.  But doesn&#8217;t that say more about the GI Blog community than it does about the BBC&#8217;s move into streamed programing?  I&#8217;m with Phil and Julian on this one, and lets face it, as a Mac user, you choose to put yourself into a minority user group, and accept the consequences.  You don&#8217;t move next door to a church, and then complain about the bells, and you don&#8217;t buy a Mac and complain that you are a low priority in the development cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://www.edparsons.com/2007/07/mac-iplayer-so-the-wait-begins/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have XP and I&#039;m still waiting - you have to sign up and then wait for them to invite you to the beta...

Of course, for my license fees, what I would really like to see is an integrated player that will let me download any of the free-to-air channels.  I really don&#039;t want different programs for 4onDemand and ITV, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have XP and I&#8217;m still waiting &#8211; you have to sign up and then wait for them to invite you to the beta&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course, for my license fees, what I would really like to see is an integrated player that will let me download any of the free-to-air channels.  I really don&#8217;t want different programs for 4onDemand and ITV, etc.</p>
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