Sat Nav.. how old is your data ?

Thanks to Adena at allpoints for pointing out this press release from Navteq announcing their new “Sat Nav” Challenge website which allows users to find out if there is updated data for their navigation system.

navteq data

Great I though.. I checked for my system, only to find that my system is not listed.., although my Nissan X-Trail has a factory fit navigation system, the data comes from Zenrin and is not compatible with either navteq or Tele Atlas data for that matter. Zenrin as you might guess don’t seem to offer updates..

My car is two years old, the data on the navigation DVD was published two years earlier so I am using at least four year old data – and I am unable to update.

In my view this is not an acceptable situation, once again a new technologies growth is been limited by a “walled garden’ approach to technology in the same way LBS will not take off until the applications are separated from the network providers, sat nav will stall unless there is an open data format for navigation systems.

Written and submitted from home, using my home 802.11 network.

16 comments

  1. James Fee

    My wife’s Acrua DVD Nav upgrade is about $250. Living in Phoenix means our Nav is pretty much always out of date. 🙂

    It is interesting that Acura uses an Alpine system with Navteq, but it isn’t listed. Still the Acrua dealer is willing to take our money on the update.

  2. Ed

    Hi James,

    Yes $250 seems to be around the usual cost – Any idea how old the data is ? Understand you point about phoenix, even here in the ye olde UK roads change more frequently than many people appreciate.

    ed

  3. James Fee

    There is no way as far as I can tell as to the date of the data (the DVD says 2006, but I’m sure that is the copyright).

    If I go off of freeways, the data would seem to reflect sometime between September 2005 and June 2006 given how far out of town they have been completed.

    The big issue is that the average consumer can’t tell at all as to the date. The DVD Nav GUI doesn’t tell anyone the publish date of the data, nor the company that provides it. Via Acura’s website you can subscribe to an email list that will tell you when updates are available so I guess that is something.

  4. anon

    Navteq fail to point out that they only have the system they supply listed, yet they give the impression that its every sat navigation device in existance…

  5. Gordon.

    Hi, I have just bought a nearly new Mercedes-Benz in England and have been unhappy with the Satnav. On inspecting the DVD disc I find the data files were created in 2004.
    Mercedes refuse to update my system and want me to pay £217 for a new data disc.
    Do you have any idea what company makes the system and software for Mercedes? Any info would be appreciatedl.
    Regards, Gordon.

  6. Ed

    Gordon,

    I think you may have a TravelPilot system, if this is the case you need Tele Atlas data – online at navshop.com

  7. Ben

    I bought an X-trail new in November 2005. Recently I was driving near Birmingham and discovered that the M6 Toll was not in the sat nav data. I checked on the internet and found that the road was opened in November 2003. I checked the disc and found it dated 2003. I complained to Nissan and was told that an update was published a month after I had bought the car and that they were not willing to change it unless I spent some £300. I am considering claiming in the small claims court as the brochure on which I based the decision to buy did not mention that the nav data could be 2 years out of date.

  8. PETER COOGAN

    Just read Ben’s post re Nissan’s unhelpful stance on SatNav. I’m in Ireland and this year my wife and I bought two new Nissan’s (Pathfinder and Primera) both with with SatNav. The mapping was created by Christopher Columbus and utterly useless. I too am inclined to have a go at Nissan for duping us into expensive SatNav kit with much-outdated mapping. Have you done anything about it Ben. The Small Claims Court might be the cheapest and quickest route. Peter

  9. Julian Wisbey

    I have a nissan navara with sat nav and wanted to up date the dvd rom to include new roads, tolls, gatos etc.. and find it really frustrating that compared with the likes of tom tom etc nissan and the software manufacturers have created a no win situation for the consumer for crazy profits!!!

  10. Des

    hi, i live in ireland and bought a nissan primara in jan 05 the sat nav was totally useless my home town and most of the country was not on it. i was wondering have you taken any action against nissan to resolve you problem?. it would be nice to hear from you.

    best regarda

  11. Ed

    Des,

    I have come to the conclusion that I will never buy a factory fit sat nav system again, they are poor value, offer poor functionality and are little understood by the dealer network.

    You could try and argue with Nissan, or just pay a few hundred Euros for a Garmin or Tom Tom device.

    ed

  12. Guy

    If it’s any consolation I’ve just spoken to Nissan and they said that there is a version 6.0 upgrade (cost about £180) for 2006 but if you try and install it over a previous version you may totally corrupt the Sat Nav. BTW the chap I spoke to said the new version doesn’t have the M6 toll road on it…

  13. mark

    just got back from france, my nissan xtrail 05 was ok, but picked a crap route. I just bought a map and routed on new roads that the satnav didnt have, the longer this goes on the less use the system will be, there must be a solution

  14. James

    i have just gotten my hands on the latest 6.0 upgrade for a Nissan Primera and if you live in Ireland then don’t waste your money. It shows the names of small housing estates in small villages but does not show the names of the villages themselves and towns with populations of in excess of 15,000 people are not on it either. Total crap.

  15. David Cruddas

    My Wife and i recently started caravaning with a 55 plate X trail and Nissan instaled Sat Nav, being unfamilure with these systems i presumed that paper maps were out dated and this new gear would get me any where, how wrong could one be.
    From Bens comment above i am making another presumption that the disk i hold is of the same age.
    The big problem with this system comes when all you have of the address is the post code or GPS location this system canot handle the infomation, i have also found the system limited in travel information, ie declaring traffic problems and/or road closures when this is not the case (out of date travel info)
    Other comments relating to attitude from a major player in the car market only frustrate me more for the sake of customer relations i thought Nissan would be prepared to work with thier customers, this is obviously not the case If any one can sugest a suitable solution to combat Nissans Blasay attitude i would love to here it

  16. ajpeirson

    I have heard nothing but bad news about nissan.I’m going to sell my 06 navara before i start spending big money on her

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